{ "headline_text": "Assembly Member Harper Defies Party in Vote on Salton Sea Restoration Bill", "byline_text": "AI4Reporters", "date_text": "Tuesday, June 27, 2017", "time_text": "04:37 AM PST", "leginfo_bill_link": "http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB615", "billanalysis_text": null, "hearing_transcript": [ { "start_time": 274, "end_time": 286, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Good morning, Mr. Chair. I think if I started with SB 615 that would kind of give a better overview in terms of the two bills are related and I think this would be a good introductory bill to-" }, { "start_time": 286, "end_time": 287, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "Thank you. The floor's yours." }, { "start_time": 287, "end_time": 317, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Present to members. First of all, I want to thank you, Mr. Chair, and the members for allowing me to present this bill here today. This is a bill that addresses one of California's largest problems. It's a a bill that attempts to take on an environmental problem that we have in our state, it attempts to take on an economic problem we that have in our state," }, { "start_time": 317, "end_time": 339, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "it attempts to have one of the largest human health problems that we have in our state. And it also attempts to take on a water quality, water availability problem that we have in our state. Very few people have heard of the Salton Sea. When I got here to the Legislature in 2010, this was a subject that most legislators were not familiar with." }, { "start_time": 341, "end_time": 359, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "I started working back then, you know because you were involved in that effort, to not only raise awareness but begin a program to begin addressing the problems of the decline of the Salton Sea. The Salton Sea is California's largest lake" }, { "start_time": 359, "end_time": 380, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "and over the years, it's been increasing in salinity. Over the years, it's become an important stopover for migratory birds. It's pretty much the only environment left for them to stop on their flight from north and south. It is in the heart of Imperial County and the southern part of Riverside County." }, { "start_time": 380, "end_time": 401, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "But currently, the sea is in a position where it's declining, where the fish that currently live in the sea are set to die off, which would really endanger the migratory birds. This is a body of water that's probably one of the state's largest polluters of air," }, { "start_time": 401, "end_time": 423, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "as it releases methane and dangerous toxins or gases. It releases dangerous gases into the air that if you followed and tracked the movement of the gases, they go as far as Malibu in this air plume that extends north into the Los Angeles Basin affecting Riverside and" }, { "start_time": 423, "end_time": 441, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Los Angeles Counties, Orange Counties, these are areas, Imperial Counties, and of course, San Diego Counties, there are areas that face declining air quality as a result of this declining resource." }, { "start_time": 441, "end_time": 461, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "SB 615, the bill that I am presenting today, requires the Natural Resources Agency to develop a 10-year plan to implement an MOU between the Resources Agency and the Federal Government and to implement an MOU that was entered into between the Resources Agency and the Federal Government in 2016." }, { "start_time": 461, "end_time": 483, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "In March, the Resources Agency released a draft 10-year plan and when we look at that, we know that it's only a partial plan but that additional work needs to be done to accomplish that. The final 10-year plan will serve as a road map to a restored sea that will ensure" }, { "start_time": 483, "end_time": 510, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "we establish a very strong foundation that transcends administrations into the future. Right now, today as we look at the victims of the sea, the most impacted are the most innocent. The exposed playas, for example, as the sea recedes, have resulted in a spike in asthma rates, making Imperial County's cities some of the cities with the worst asthma" }, { "start_time": 510, "end_time": 534, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "rates in the country, the number one worst areas for poor air quality. The Sac Bee puts the number of children with asthma in Imperial County at 12,000 of an area with a population of about 178,000 people. These are 12,000 children that are facing a problem with breathing every day." }, { "start_time": 534, "end_time": 563, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Many of our families are very poor. They can't leave Imperial County. We have the highest unemployment rates in the state in Imperial County and it is also one of the most important agricultural areas in the county. As Assemblymember Bigelow will testify, Imperial County is the largest producer of beef in the state." }, { "start_time": 563, "end_time": 579, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "We have the largest amount of cattle in that area for the purposes of our food supply, doubling the amount of people in the county. That's how many cattle they have for processing. But also, we have one of the most important agricultural areas in the state." }, { "start_time": 579, "end_time": 601, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "The Imperial County area and the Colorado River Delta, making up two countries, produce a large percentage of not only the state's food supply, but the world's food supply. Endangering that would create not only economic problems for our state, but also would drive up food prices worldwide." }, { "start_time": 603, "end_time": 627, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "These are not local issues and it's very frustrating to hear people talk about the Salton Sea as an Imperial Valley or Riverside County issue, it's not. As I mentioned, this dust can blow as far as Arizona, Mexico, San Diego County, LA County, Riverside County. It is, as I mentioned, a problem that we need to fix." }, { "start_time": 627, "end_time": 647, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "This bill will set us on a path to start making those improvements that will improve air quality and ensure that the sea becomes a sustainable sea into the future. And it's a good first step to start solving these problems that are way overdue. We started asking about Salton Sea sustainability in" }, { "start_time": 647, "end_time": 672, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "the 1980s and a very alarming, I mean, there was a red flag that was raised back then saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, we have a problem here. But nothing has really been done until very recently, really in the last 10 years or more so, the last seven years. So I feel that I have a really good partner in you, Mr. Chair, in working on this issue." }, { "start_time": 672, "end_time": 688, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "And I really appreciate your attention to the sea with the park bond and in the water bond that we've worked on over the years and we have made progress. The water bond has allowed us to make progress. Creating the Salton Sea Authority" }, { "start_time": 688, "end_time": 706, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "has been a very important step. Creating and funding the plan that has led to this ten-year recommendation has been a very important step. But now we're ready to undertake improvements. Now we're ready to move forward and this is our plan to move forward with the State of California." }, { "start_time": 708, "end_time": 709, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 6440, "speaker_first": "Unidentified", "speaker_last": "Speaker", "utterance": "Move the bill." }, { "start_time": 709, "end_time": 716, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "Thank you, Senator. We have a motion and a second. I know you have some witnesses. Please proceed." }, { "start_time": 716, "end_time": 732, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 6440, "speaker_first": "Unidentified", "speaker_last": "Speaker", "utterance": "Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to Mr. Hueso for introducing this bill. It's an important bill that addresses ecological and human health issues in the Salton Sea. We have been working the Salton Sea for a few years now" }, { "start_time": 732, "end_time": 763, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 6440, "speaker_first": "Unidentified", "speaker_last": "Speaker", "utterance": "and we have started to see the ecological devastations that the exposed playa is having on over 200 species of birds, in addition to having just the ecological devastation impact coupled with the environmental health issues in the area. It's incredibly important for us to continue to address this issue and we strongly support this bill." }, { "start_time": 763, "end_time": 764, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "Thank you." }, { "start_time": 764, "end_time": 772, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 1321, "speaker_first": "Steven", "speaker_last": "Cruz", "utterance": "Good morning. Steve Cruz on behalf of the San Diego County Water Authority. Again, appreciate the Senator's work in calling needed attention to the Salton Sea." }, { "start_time": 772, "end_time": 798, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 1321, "speaker_first": "Steven", "speaker_last": "Cruz", "utterance": "It's not only one of the most important natural resources in the state, but it's also one of the most fragile. And so with his involvement, there has been, I would say, renewed effort by the state to put together a feasible plan to address the air quality and habitat issues and we stand with him and support his effort and hope the committee will move this bill today." }, { "start_time": 801, "end_time": 820, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 1774, "speaker_first": "Richard", "speaker_last": "Harmon", "utterance": "Richard Harmon on behalf of the County of Imperial, also known as ground zero when it comes to Salton Sea. We very much appreciate the efforts of the author and the chair on this issue, as always. The county remains focused on restoration of the sea, mitigation of the negative impacts on residents and wildlife, as well as development around the sea, including clean geothermal energy that benefits all the state." }, { "start_time": 820, "end_time": 824, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 1774, "speaker_first": "Richard", "speaker_last": "Harmon", "utterance": "So with that, the county couldn't ask for two better advocates on this issue and really appreciate the help and ask for your aye vote." }, { "start_time": 827, "end_time": 833, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 1639, "speaker_first": "Wendy", "speaker_last": "Ridderbusch", "utterance": "Morning, Mr. Chair and members. Wendy Ridderbusch with the Association of California Water Agencies, or ACWA. We're in strong support of the measure." }, { "start_time": 835, "end_time": 843, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 2365, "speaker_first": "Che", "speaker_last": "Salinas", "utterance": "Good morning Chair and members, Che Salinas on behalf of Imperial Irrigation District. I'd like to thank the Senator and the Chairman for their leadership on this issue and support, thanks." }, { "start_time": 845, "end_time": 849, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 113533, "speaker_first": "Jaymee", "speaker_last": "Go", "utterance": "Good morning, Jaymee Go on behalf of the Environmental Defense Fund in support." }, { "start_time": 849, "end_time": 853, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 8598, "speaker_first": "Lucas", "speaker_last": "Frerichs", "utterance": "Good morning, Lucas Frerichs on behalf of the Nature Conservancy in strong support." }, { "start_time": 853, "end_time": 862, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "Anyone wishing to speak in opposition? Okay, seeing no one, any questions or comments, committee members? Assembly Member Mathis?" }, { "start_time": 862, "end_time": 879, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 75, "speaker_first": "Devon", "speaker_last": "Mathis", "utterance": "I'd like to thank the Senator for your hard work. During spring break, I had the opportunity to go down and visit Coachella, but not for that reason, sort of the Salton Sea. You guys have a lot of good pepper crops and dates down there as well." }, { "start_time": 880, "end_time": 903, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 75, "speaker_first": "Devon", "speaker_last": "Mathis", "utterance": "I've seen it with my own eyes and I literally have been down there. And everything you've discussed is pretty spot on. Got to learn a little bit of the history and the hydrology of the area and what actually causes the Salton Sea to be in the condition that it's in, so I will be supporting your bill today." }, { "start_time": 903, "end_time": 911, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 75, "speaker_first": "Devon", "speaker_last": "Mathis", "utterance": "And seeing things with your own eyes is a very interesting way to look at things. Thank you." }, { "start_time": 903, "end_time": 911, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it." }, { "start_time": 903, "end_time": 911, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "Doctor?" }, { "start_time": 911, "end_time": 930, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 100940, "speaker_first": "Steven", "speaker_last": "Choi", "utterance": "Thank you, Chair. Now Senator Hueso, thank you for your detailed explanation. And I generally heard about the issues there at the Salton Sea. I wonder whether this bill will just require" }, { "start_time": 930, "end_time": 957, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 100940, "speaker_first": "Steven", "speaker_last": "Choi", "utterance": "California Natural Resources Agency to develop and actually execute the plan for 10-year... plan. Or will it be just a planned development? Or whatever recommendations or plans developed will be implemented to improve the condition?" }, { "start_time": 957, "end_time": 975, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "The whole purpose to implement the plan The plan has funding for, it's a ten-year plan but we, so far, have only funded about three or four years. Funding is available for the first portion of that. And that gets to the next bill that I'm going to present that fully funds the plan." }, { "start_time": 975, "end_time": 999, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "But, initially, we have developed a restoration plan that pretty much deals with the exposed playa, that deals with the water quality level, that deals with keeping life sustained in the sea, that deals with water quality. The plan addresses all the most important parts of the quality of the sea." }, { "start_time": 1000, "end_time": 1007, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "The funding is something that will come in the next bill that I'm going to present. We can talk further about that when we get to details of the funding." }, { "start_time": 1007, "end_time": 1008, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 100940, "speaker_first": "Steven", "speaker_last": "Choi", "utterance": "Thank you." }, { "start_time": 1008, "end_time": 1010, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "Assembly Member Salas." }, { "start_time": 1010, "end_time": 1014, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 34, "speaker_first": "Rudy", "speaker_last": "Salas", "utterance": "Thank you, Senator. Well, maybe I'll just wait until your next bill." }, { "start_time": 1014, "end_time": 1034, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 34, "speaker_first": "Rudy", "speaker_last": "Salas", "utterance": "I was just wondering about some of the funding mechanisms with the Department of Interior given that how the Salton Sea originated from the Colorado River and the reasons why we have the conditions that we have now. I don't know if you could describe for me the benefits of having the Salton Sea there." }, { "start_time": 1034, "end_time": 1042, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 34, "speaker_first": "Rudy", "speaker_last": "Salas", "utterance": "It seems like every time I hear a legislator talk about it, it's always about issues with the Salton Sea and I don't see what the actual benefits are in what we're fixing." }, { "start_time": 1043, "end_time": 1048, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Well, the sea has been there already for over a hundred years." }, { "start_time": 1048, "end_time": 1071, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "And in that time, largely, the sea hasn't really been managed. It has, they've transferred water into it, it's largely been classified as a sump, not a lake, so anything can be dumped into there that is a way around the Federal Water Quality Act. So, because of that, they can dump anything into the rivers, into the lake." }, { "start_time": 1071, "end_time": 1097, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "And so you have an enormous amount of toxins and chemicals that are pretty much settled to the bottom of the lake. If the lake dries up now, all that would be exposed. And there are just a myriad of problems, I don't know if you've ever heard of closer to your neck of the woods, Owens Lake." }, { "start_time": 1097, "end_time": 1123, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Owens Lake was a completely natural lake that when it was dry, they transferred the water into Los Angeles, created these dust storms that really made that area unlivable and undevelopable. And in addition to that, the exposed area has also contributed to rising temperatures in that region. This past week, we saw temperatures of about 123, 124 degrees," }, { "start_time": 1123, "end_time": 1143, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "which is very close to Death Valley type of temperatures, highest temperatures we've ever seen out there in the valley. If you remove the sea, we could probably add another 10 degrees to that. Add another 10 degrees to that temperature plus toxic air, and" }, { "start_time": 1143, "end_time": 1168, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "you're going to make that area unlivable not only to people, but to livestock as well. We are basically going to create an environmentally devastated region. And I think there have been numerous studies that have been conducted that have pretty much described what could be the state of affairs in the future if nothing is done." }, { "start_time": 1168, "end_time": 1192, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "And those studies recognize that the solution is going to be costly and very difficult and it's going to be very difficult for us as leaders of the state to really make the decisions necessary to result in an improvement there. The solutions are not easy, but the alternative is far, far worse." }, { "start_time": 1192, "end_time": 1212, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "And I was very happy when I finally saw an article in The New York Times as far as New York saying something has got to be done about the sea. This is a problem of not only California importance, but global importance. And that basically told me, we have basically mainstreamed this issue nationwide," }, { "start_time": 1212, "end_time": 1229, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "where people recognize that this is a problem that not only California has to solve, but the neighboring states and the Federal Government all share responsibility. When the Quantification Settlement Agreement was entered into, the Federal Government and the states committed to be part of the solution." }, { "start_time": 1229, "end_time": 1248, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "And so far, California is the only one that has stepped up to be part of solution. But I feel strongly that if California begins to make process on the issue, the Federal Government will also do its part as they're required to. And we are basically going to raise locally enough money to start addressing the core of the problem," }, { "start_time": 1248, "end_time": 1265, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "but we need the help of the Federal Government. The Federal Government signed an agreement saying that they would be part of the solution. So, we absolutely must fix this, we don't really have an option. Letting the sea dry is not an option because again, as I described," }, { "start_time": 1265, "end_time": 1271, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "we will basically devastate the region and Southern California's environment." }, { "start_time": 1271, "end_time": 1284, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 34, "speaker_first": "Rudy", "speaker_last": "Salas", "utterance": "I appreciate that response, Senator, and obviously, you're passionate about it. I even know, I think you've swam in the Salton Sea and kayaked and all of that stuff. You did call the Salton Sea a dump, so is it safe to say-" }, { "start_time": 1284, "end_time": 1286, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "No, not a dump, a sump." }, { "start_time": 1286, "end_time": 1287, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 34, "speaker_first": "Rudy", "speaker_last": "Salas", "utterance": "A sump." }, { "start_time": 1287, "end_time": 1288, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "It's classified as a sump." }, { "start_time": 1288, "end_time": 1289, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 34, "speaker_first": "Rudy", "speaker_last": "Salas", "utterance": "As a sump." }, { "start_time": 1289, "end_time": 1291, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "But it's an amazing body of water." }, { "start_time": 1291, "end_time": 1294, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 34, "speaker_first": "Rudy", "speaker_last": "Salas", "utterance": "Got it, so you don't like swimming in the dump or the sump." }, { "start_time": 1294, "end_time": 1297, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "No, I swam in the Salton Sea." }, { "start_time": 1297, "end_time": 1298, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 34, "speaker_first": "Rudy", "speaker_last": "Salas", "utterance": "Okay, thank you, Senator." }, { "start_time": 1300, "end_time": 1319, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, Senator, thank you for your leadership on this. As you know, and those of you here on this committee, Salton Sea is home to me and to my family. And the state does have a major liability" }, { "start_time": 1319, "end_time": 1342, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "here as it results to the 2003 QSA agreement. And although the Federal Government has weighed in a bit in the past, in the range of maybe $30 million from the Department of Interior, or 7.9 from the Department of Ag, it certainly still isn't enough." }, { "start_time": 1342, "end_time": 1364, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "I think to put it into context, it's often compared to Owens Lake. And Owens Lake is a tenth of the size of the Salton Sea. And there you have somewhere in the range of $1.8 billion that goes in on a reoccurring basis to" }, { "start_time": 1364, "end_time": 1384, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "mitigate the air quality issues out in that area. And so we're talking about a sea that is much larger, which will bring forward greater liability, public health concerns, we talked about ag and the importance to the state as a whole." }, { "start_time": 1384, "end_time": 1409, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "The Pacific Institute put together an analysis that pointed to a potential $70 billion impact, economic impact to the region, the ag industry being one, the hospitality and tourism industry being another. And I'm not sure that that number is quantifying the public" }, { "start_time": 1409, "end_time": 1431, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "health impacts to the people who live in and around the area. And you mentioned how far-reaching some of the concerns of the sea make their way to Los Angles, San Diego are some of the areas that we've had some reports" }, { "start_time": 1431, "end_time": 1451, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "of indirect impacts on the quality of those areas. There is a lot of work to be done, there are feelings in the district back home that the state, quite frankly, hasn't done enough, fast enough and certainly hasn't invested enough to addressing this issue." }, { "start_time": 1451, "end_time": 1477, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "In fact just this week, there was a series of symposiums put on by scientists, policy makers, and community stakeholders that the 2000, the year 2017, the water transfers taking place this year will accelerate the need for the state to do more." }, { "start_time": 1477, "end_time": 1497, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "And so, obviously, we're very committed to this issue and working in partnership with you. I think our colleagues here and throughout the entire Legislature have come to the realization that this problem isn't just Senator Hueso's problem or Assembly Member Garcia's problem, that this is a state problem." }, { "start_time": 1497, "end_time": 1515, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "300,000 acre feet of water, the largest water transfer in this country to ever be inked on paper, is to take place this year and human health is significantly at risk as a result of that, and you mentioned the statistic alone as it relates to children." }, { "start_time": 1516, "end_time": 1536, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "The seven out of 10 children suffering from respiratory diseases is a very, very alarming statistic that I think that alone ought to motivate us all to move closer to funding what's before us, and as well, codifying this 10-year strategic plan." }, { "start_time": 1536, "end_time": 1558, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "As I mentioned, back home folks will say this is not the end-all solution, and I think we recognize that it isn't. There's a much longer game to be played here, but something has to get off the ground, funded and continue to move the conversation on the policy side, and of course, on the financial aspect of it as well." }, { "start_time": 1558, "end_time": 1569, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "So thank you for bringing this measure forward, certainly glad to be able to work with you and partner on this piece of legislation and I'll just give you the floor for your closing comments." }, { "start_time": 1569, "end_time": 1596, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Thank you very much and you were right in mentioning Owens Valley has seen huge investments, but we have seen over $1 billion be spent Owens Valley and in this last rain event, all of them were pretty much destroyed. We can't follow the Owens Valley model. Already, enough playa is exposed around the Salton Sea that pretty much replicates the amount of land that's exposed by the Owens Valley. We have that today, right now." }, { "start_time": 1596, "end_time": 1624, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "So we have a very enormous sense of urgency to start working on this issue right away. If, what we envision, though, is that the amount of exposed playa that we will see in the next few years, when the sea is reduced will equal the entire land area of the City of Sacramento. The entire land area, if you add up all the land, all the acreage that makes up the City of Sacramento," }, { "start_time": 1624, "end_time": 1648, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "that's how much playa will be exposed, that's how much work we have to do and try to mitigate the dust out there. So we're looking for other solutions, but we need to begin now. This is a solution that gets us on track to start addressing the exposed playa today. And to be fair when, and people are very upset back home" }, { "start_time": 1648, "end_time": 1670, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "and there is sense of urgency, because people are suffocating out there and I understand that. And we haven't moved fast enough, but we started working on this problem in 2010, and really the bulk of the work took place in 2003 and 2004. And, of course, you know with the water bond that we passed and" }, { "start_time": 1670, "end_time": 1689, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "last year's work that we did, which has set us up to do this here now, we have really been working at a ferocious pace here legislatively in the last three years and I'm very proud of how far we have gotten, but I understand that it hasn't been fast enough." }, { "start_time": 1689, "end_time": 1717, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "We are in the year that the water transfers are set to end and if we don't start doing something about this now, there are parties to that agreement that can sue and undo it, which will mean reductions in water transfers to San Diego, Orange, and LA, and Riverside counties. Those counties will see less water as a result of non-action by the state" }, { "start_time": 1717, "end_time": 1735, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "and that's a very, very real problem that we're facing as well. So we're going to see an environmental problem in the interior and we're going to see a lack of water along the coast and that's just something that we can't stand by and watch and I appreciate your support today for this important measure." }, { "start_time": 1735, "end_time": 1741, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "Thank you Senator, there is a motion and a second. I think Assembly Member wanted to make a final comment. Assembly Member Mathis." }, { "start_time": 1742, "end_time": 1764, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 75, "speaker_first": "Devon", "speaker_last": "Mathis", "utterance": "Being the member that represents Inyo County and Owens Valley, just a point of clarity, the settlements that were reached for the mitigation were between LA and the County of Inyo. The fact is that LA Department of Water and" }, { "start_time": 1764, "end_time": 1772, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 75, "speaker_first": "Devon", "speaker_last": "Mathis", "utterance": "Power is responsible, they basically own 80% of Inyo County. So it wasn't a settlement between California, it was a settlement between-" }, { "start_time": 1772, "end_time": 1773, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 6440, "speaker_first": "Unidentified", "speaker_last": "Speaker", "utterance": "Right." }, { "start_time": 1773, "end_time": 1789, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 75, "speaker_first": "Devon", "speaker_last": "Mathis", "utterance": "LA Department of Power and Water so I just want to to clarify that because we're talking about state settlements and fixing this situation versus something that's a little bit different. That's all, I still support the bill, I just wanted to clarify being that's my area." }, { "start_time": 1789, "end_time": 1798, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "And just to clarify, I didn't liken the structure of government, I just likened the environmental problem, and-" }, { "start_time": 1798, "end_time": 1799, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "The size of the problem." }, { "start_time": 1799, "end_time": 1805, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Yeah, just trying to compare the size of the problem that we currently have, the one that we-" }, { "start_time": 1805, "end_time": 1806, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 75, "speaker_first": "Devon", "speaker_last": "Mathis", "utterance": "Just wanted to clarify because the settlements are a little bit different." }, { "start_time": 1806, "end_time": 1808, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "Very different. Absolutely." }, { "start_time": 1808, "end_time": 1815, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "I thank you for clarifying the clarification to the clarifying comment here." }, { "start_time": 1815, "end_time": 1816, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 48, "speaker_first": "Ben", "speaker_last": "Hueso", "utterance": "I'm glad it's all clear." }, { "start_time": 1816, "end_time": 1826, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "Thank you. Anyone else? Seeing no other comments from our members, there is a motion and a second. Thank you Senator, I think we'll take that as your closing comments." }, { "start_time": 1826, "end_time": 1827, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 6440, "speaker_first": "Unidentified", "speaker_last": "Speaker", "utterance": "Make the motions." }, { "start_time": 1827, "end_time": 1834, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 38, "speaker_first": "Eduardo", "speaker_last": "Garcia", "utterance": "We have a motion by Assembly Member Mathis, second by Assembly Member Bocanegra. Roll call please." }, { "start_time": 1837, "end_time": 1854, "vid_file_id": "be16b3dac759bb78e48c550c356f3c0a", "speaker_pid": 2998, "speaker_first": "Committee", "speaker_last": "Secretary", "utterance": "The motion is do pass to the Committee on Appropriations. Garcia aye. Gallagher aye. Bigelow aye. Bocanegra aye. Choi aye. 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